POLE POINTS QUESTION
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#1: No icon POLE POINTS QUESTION Author: Bob_DillonLocation: Mt. Vernon, Illinois PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:52 pm
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SUNDAY NIGHTS RACE RICK AND I TIED FOR THE POLE I BELIEVE I POSTED MY TIME FIRST
I STARTED ON THE POLE BUT RICK GOT THE POINTS ??? I HAD THE SAME THING HAPPEN AWHILE BACK
WITH RAY! I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS HAPPENING??
I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE ANY POINTS AND I AM NOT MAD OR ANYTHING
I AM JUST LOOKING FOR SOME ANSWERS  Confused :?

IF YOU VALUE LIFE DON'T WASTE TIME BECAUSE THAT ALL THAT LIFE IS MADE OF

#2: No icon Re: POLE POINTS QUESTION Author: Jeff_TrowbridgeLocation: West Milford, NJ PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:23 pm
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Bob, here's your answer. Since you aren't mad, I hope this doesn't make you mad... :wink:

I use ReplayAnalyzer to process the replay after the race.  That creates a report and it is that report that I use for processing the points.  Whatever is in the report from ReplayAnalyzer is considered official.

Here's the output from the CupSpeedway report:
Generated with NASCAR2003 Replay Analyzer

Track: Dover_sbp             Sun Aug 16 22:15:17 2020

QUALIFYING TIMES

Pos No   Driver                                Time      Diff    Speed   Diff Laps
1    49 Rick Turcic                        22.338s            161.161           2
2    30 Bob Dillon                         22.338s   00.000s  161.161   1.e-0   2
3    89 Vince Kramer                       22.363s   00.025s  160.980   0.181   2
4    75 R Merritts Sr                      22.365s   00.027s  160.966   0.195   2
5    79  Crabby                            22.435s   00.097s  160.464   0.697   2
6    43 Larry Cole                         22.543s   00.205s  159.695   1.466   2
7     5  Corvette-fan                      22.660s   00.322s  158.871   2.291   2
8   230  Paint4life                        22.688s   00.350s  158.674   2.487   2
9    98  Greg Artlip                       22.810s   00.472s  157.826   3.335   2
10    -1 Pace Car                           No Time   No Time  No Time No Time   0
11    48 Dennis Turner                      No Time   No Time  No Time No Time   0
12    77 Jeff Perry                         No Time   No Time  No Time No Time   0
13     6 Brett Carter                       No Time   No Time  No Time No Time   0
14    40 Gary Moran                         No Time   No Time  No Time No Time   0
15    41 Michael Grimmett                   No Time   No Time  No Time No Time   0
16   999 AOR CupSpeedway                    No Time   No Time  No Time No Time   0

All times are official

So, when I processed the points for the website, Rick was in position 1 and received credit for the pole.

Now, for as why you started on the pole instead of Rick, I don't have a definitive answer for that.  I can speculate that the game sorts by the time then the driver name so since Bob comes before Rick you ended up starting on the pole. BUT, that's just a guess on my part.

... And so it goes ...

#3: No icon Re: POLE POINTS QUESTION Author: Bob_DillonLocation: Mt. Vernon, Illinois PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:10 pm
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OK THANKS JEFF I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO USE THE REPLAY ANALYZER AND IT IS WHAT IT IS
I JUST KNEW IN BOTH CASES I POSTED MY TIME BEFORE THEM
THANKS AGAIN NO PROBLEM HERE
BOB

#4: No icon Re: POLE POINTS QUESTION Author: _RIP_Larry_ColeLocation: Earth PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:15 pm
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I'm not sure that I agree with the fact that a secondary program overrides the primary game decision.
But so it goes...

#5: No icon Re: POLE POINTS QUESTION Author: Gary_MoranLocation: NE PA PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:34 pm
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The replay clearly showed the 30 car started from the pole.

#6: No icon Re: POLE POINTS QUESTION Author: _RIP_Larry_ColeLocation: Earth PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:48 am
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And the game clearly did not show you starting from the pole, but the secondary program overrode a game penalty and gave it to you.

Irony.

#7: No icon Re: POLE POINTS QUESTION Author: Gary_MoranLocation: NE PA PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:14 pm
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No I won the pole. And a penalty started me in the back....just like it does in the real world. Nice try

#8: No icon Re: POLE POINTS QUESTION Author: Richard_Hildebrandt PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:53 pm
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Gary this question was about Sunday Aug 16
According to the Replay Analyzer
On that night it shows you qualified 14 with NO TIME posted.

#9: No icon Re: POLE POINTS QUESTION Author: Gary_MoranLocation: NE PA PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:23 am
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I know it is about Bob

#10: No icon Re: POLE POINTS QUESTION Author: _RIP_Larry_ColeLocation: Earth PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:06 pm
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No Gary, N2003 DQ'd you. RA gave you the pole. My point still stands.

#11: No icon Re: POLE POINTS QUESTION Author: Gary_MoranLocation: NE PA PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:56 am
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I think you need to read NASCAR rule book

#12: No icon Re: POLE POINTS QUESTION Author: _RIP_Larry_ColeLocation: Earth PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:40 pm
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No, I don't. NASCAR's rulebook has nothing to do with this. Why don't you just read what was written rather than imposing your own righteousness. Had we not been using RA, you would NOT have been given the pole. That is as simple as I can put it.



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